It Is Time to Rise Up Together and Demand HOVINDICATION…

220px-Kent_Hovind_mug_shot Starting yesterday, the Father has taken hold of my heart and mind and lit a fire in my spirit, and I feel compelled to write the first in what is certainly going to be an ongoing series of posts about the current plight of Dr. Kent Hovind. This fire was first kindled after listening to this very recent phone interview – Digging for the Truth with Ark and Neo: Interview with Kent Hovind from Prison.  Immediately after listening, I quickly emailed my good friend Sam from God’s Property Radio (who is mentioned in the podcast) and he filled me in on more details, and directed me to this short interview, and podcast, which also gives information on the recent arrest of Paul J. Hansen as well: God’s Property Radio Coin Toss: Free Kent Hovind / Free Paul J. Hansen. I not only recommend everyone listen to these two audio files, I URGE you to, I plead with everyone reading this to start by downloading these programs, get informed on all that has transpired in the past surrounding this preacher of the Gospel, and what is now unfolding as we speak.

Essentially, what is happening right now is that Hovind, only months before he was scheduled to be released from prison, is now being slapped with a laughably bogus charge involving mailing a notice of pending litigation in regards to a property that the government confiscated and sold anyhow… This new charge carries a sentence of up to 20 years.

Even after almost nine years, perhaps the majority of people who are familiar with Kent Hovind’s arrest and incarceration are under the false belief that he was tried and convicted of tax evasion. Simply do a google image search for Hovind and you will be treated to dozens upon dozens of pictures totally mocking him and his predicament. For the most part, the Church as a whole in America has turned a blind eye to this horrific injustice and chosen to be swayed by the smear tactics, but what has happened to Kent Hovind is not only a complete and utter abuse of the IRS and the justice system, but it is a case which has ramifications for every one of us living in this country. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”, and yes, we are lacking indeed….

If you take any time to examine the details of Hovind’s case, I promise you be shocked and dismayed, and you should realize that what is being done is an undeniable example of modern-day political persecution, the implementation of fraudulent and frivolous litigation against an individual who is guilty of nothing, other than courageously speaking unpopular truths, and defrocking the lies being embedded into our society and propagated by the Powers That Shouldn’t Be…

There is so much that could be said, yet I simply want to get this ongoing conversation started here, and continued on, and get the word out to as many as possible. I will conclude this particular post by including a video of Hovind’s presentation at the Prophecy Club, talking about the New World Order, which is EXCELLENT. In this speech he covers a whole array of topics such as the Federal Reserve system, the education system, politics, etc., but throughout them all, he weaves them altogether by looking at them all through the lens of Evolution, which he reveals as being a philosophy in itself, and demonstrates how it basically functions of as one of the foundational tenets of global luciferianism, without people even realizing it…

A list of links for Kent Hovind and the current developments:

Main page: 2peter3.com
Donate to Kent Hovind legal fund
Free Hovind website
Petitions for Kent Hovind:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/FreeKentHovind/
http://www.gopetition.com/…/get-kent-hovind-out-of-jail…
http://freehovind.com/petition

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24 thoughts on “It Is Time to Rise Up Together and Demand HOVINDICATION…”

  1. I am somewhat familiar with Kent Hovind, and I agree that the charges against him were bogus. Look at what some of the white shoe boys from Goldman Sux get by with, unquestioned. That said, I do have some reservations about him, not so much him, but some of his associates, such as David Barton, from Wallbuilders.com. Barton is a proven liar, and goes into churches giving fraudulent information to the sheeple. He is a big buddy of Morman, Glenn Beck, and both of them worship Israel, and are close with John Hagee. Also there is his association with the APOSTACY Club. This group is NOT the group it used to be. Too many connections to the CFR, and other “elites” and known false profit$.

    But I do agree that he was incarcerated under bogus charges, and we should pray for him.

    1. No, I’m not poking fun at them, I’m VERY serious. If there ever was a Biblical description that fits this bunch to the tee, (along with others) it would be this:

      2 Peter 2:1-3King James Version (KJV)

      2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

      2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

      3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words MAKE MERCHANDISE OF YOU: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

      As far as Hovind HIMSELF, other than his ties with KNOWN LIAR David Barton, I have no reason to ask questions, from what I’ve seen. As I stated, I do think he was treated very unfairly. I also stated that my beef was NOT with him as much as his associates.

      As far as the Apostacy Club, speaking for myself, I would NOT share a stage with some of these people that they give good time to. Take Avi Lipkin, for instance. He openly says he’s NOT a “Messianic Jew”. In other words, he doesn’t believe Jesus is who He says He is. This, according to 1John is ANTICHRIST. Yet, people such as this, the Apostacy Club has NO PROBLEM with giving them their podium. Prophecy In The News is another. They will answer to God for what they do, and I will answer for what I do, and I choose to run the other way.

      I do hope and pray that Hovind is NOT deeply involved with this bunch, and that he is soon released.

      As far as the Israel issue, that is not the SOLE thing that determines the conclusions that I come to about different people. However, it IS a red flag.

      1. I hear you Strange. We all have to “work out our Salvation with FEAR and Trembling”. I think the Bible means what it says, and says what it means; such as:
        2 Cor. 6:14
        Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

        I really don’t see an area of “grey” in what Jesus said:

        Matt.12:30

        He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

        When you start mixing truth with lies, light with darkness, life and death; you basically have what Jesus said he would “spew out of His mouth” – mixing COLD with HOT= LUKEWARM. Mixing polar opposites; it all boils down to LUKEWARM.

        How many times have we all argued over some of those “hot topics”; only to come to a place of “agreeing to disagree”? We come to a CONsensus. We MEET IN THE MIDDLE -LUKEWARM!

        We are part of the ‘COLLECTIVE’. Group-minded, hive-minded. Isn’t that what all the religions are trying to do right now, come to a CONsensus. “Let’s put our differences aside, and be one big happy COMMUNITY”. LUKEWARM. All of this is associated with the false prophet, and it is a trap.

        All of this is my feelings on the whole matter, and I’ve done much study to arrive here. This is me working out MY salvation, and everyone is told to do that. This is what I’ll stand before a Powerful and Holy GOD with, and if I got it wrong, it’s ME that will answer for it. This is where we’re ALL at.

        1. Hi Truth- This is a link to the best source I have found that exposes David Barton (who Sandy was mentioning): http://ephesians511blog.net/david-barton-page/
          Barton’s main role seems to be getting people to buy into the “America is a Christian nation” concept. He has been caught altering historical documents to propagate this idea. The guy who runs the blog I linked has a lot of good evidence to back this up. Just thought I’d let you read up on Barton and decide for yourself.

          I agree with you that you can’t automatically throw everyone under the bus that shares a stage/pulpit with a deceiver. But I think when a person shares the stage or attends the same conference as a known wolf, then that person needs to be carefully examined. I think Jesus told us that false teachers are “wolves” not only because they seek to devour the sheep but also because they run in PACKS and tend to promote one another, working together to attack the flock. (This is the fundamental principle of the Fabian Socialists, their logo says it all…)

          Not saying that is the case with Hovind at all , and based purely on his info, I like everything I hear from Hovind. Although there are a couple affiliations he has that do make me raise an eyebrow.

          God bless you man, I enjoy your blog!

  2. EXCELLENT ARTICLE, BROTHER, ON THE FALSE PERSECUTION & IMPRISONMENT, YEA AND DESIRED FUTURE FALSE DETAINMENT-/-IMPRISONMENT OF BR.-/-DR. KENT HOVIND !

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED & IS STILL HAPPENING TO DR.-/-BR. KENT HOVIND -AND- BR. PAUL J. HANSEN IS THE ******SAME****** THING THAT ******HAPPENED****** TO BROTHERS *******JOHN TODD*******, *******FRITZ SPRINGMEIER******* & *******ALL THE TRUE SAINTS OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IN ISRAEL WHO HAVE PUBLICLY & EFFECTIVELY SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THE “ILLUMINATI”-/-NEW-WORLD-ORDER -&- LUCIFER’S-/-SATAN’S–/-ANTI-CHRIST’S COMING ANTI-BIBLICAL-/-ANTI-CHRISTIAN-/-ONE-WORLD-GOVERNMENT-&-Or-RELIGION ! ! !

    Truthfully, Honestly, Sincerely Yours And Faithfully Recorded & Submitted,

    Tony Cisneros
    2011 (& Possible 2015) Candidate For City Treasurer,
    City Of Chicago,
    State Of Illinois,
    United States Of America.

    P.S.-THE FUTHER PERSECUTION OF THE TRUE SAINTS OF GOD-/-CHRIST & TRUTH-TELLERS EVERYWHERE; IS A SIGN THAT THE *******RAPTURE******* OF THE TRUE CHURCH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS NOT ONLY ALREADY AT THE DOORS & THE THRESHOLD OF THE DOORS: BUT THE DOOR IN HEAVEN IS READY TO BE OPENED aka THE BOOK OF REVELATION CHAPTER FOUR (4) ! ! !

  3. I absolutely loved this video.. he was funny and at the same time had so much info,some I’ve never heard of. At the end it made me cry. I think it would any saved person because saved people desire the things of God!
    I prayed for him and will check out his other videos and info.

  4. Truth!

    Thank you for supporting Kent Hovind! I just talked to him on the phone for 15 minutes and we need to keep getting information out there to people. Especially believers. You are competing with Forbes which is tough because they are doing an article a day just slamming Dr. Hovind. Let’s keep em’ coming buddy. I have a large network of Hovind Supporters that I am in communication with and we will be reposting whatever you post on a large scale. Many Christians do not realize that this is the beginning of a whole new level of classifying Christians as Extremists much like the Muslim World. It is about to really hit the fan with this trial, I’m telling all of you. Sorry to sound like an alarmist but we cannot sit back and just let this happen a second time to Kent. Also, Paul J. Hansen is now being charged along with him. Listen to Episode 8 of our podcast godspropertyradio.com if you would like more info on LEGAL CONTROL:

    http://godspropertyradio.podomatic.com/entry/2014-05-24T09_20_31-07_00

    In Christ,

    Sam/GPR

  5. Do You Know Who Was The Most Feared Man In The World By The ******ILLUMINATI****** When Br. TODD Made His Taped Comments Back In The 1970s-80s-90s ? ? ? ? ? ? ? –

    I Will Now LET BR. JOHN TODD SPEAK FOR HIMSELF (As Found In THE MAJORITY OF HIS YOU-TUBE Tapes That Are ON THE INTERNET [Which Preceeded HIS OWN WORDS On The TIME &-Or DATE OF HIS (JOHN TODD’S) OWN PERSONAL SPIRITUAL BORN-AGAIN-/-SALVATION DATE [Which Was In 1972; That Is, LABOR DAY Of 1972]):

    JOHN TODD: “LET ME SAY SOMETHING, HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THE BIGGER YOU (YOUR CHURCH) GET[S] THE LESS FUNDAMENTAL (BIBLE CHRISTIAN) YOU GET. NOW, THERE’S AN EXCEPTION TO THAT.

    I, YOU SEE, IN THE OCCULT I DIDN’T HAVE ANY HEROS; NOW I LIKE JOHN WAYNE, NO I DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER: NO MY HEROS ARE HEROS THAT WAS ENEMIES TO US WHEN I WAS IN THE OCCULT.

    *******THE MOST FEARED MAN IN THE WORLD (BY THE ILLUMINATI) IS A BAPTIST FUNDAMENTAL (BIBLE) PREACHER BY THE NAME OF *******JACK HYLES*******; HE IS THE MOST FEARED PERSON, IN FACT THERE WAS BARELY A MONTH WENT BY THAT THAT MAN’S NAME DIDN’T COME UP IN SOME WAY.” *******

    AUDIENCE QUESTIONER: *** “WHY ?” ***

    JOHN TODD: “BY SEVERAL DOCTRINES HE PREACHES. ON ARMED CHRISTIANS FOR ONE. ON PREPARING FOR THE END TIMES; THAT CHRISTIANS WILL SEE TROUBLE BEFORE THE RAPTURE. THAT {THERE ARE) A REQUIREMENT OF CHRISTIAN RETREATS (CHRISTIAN BIBLE CONFERENCES, YOUTH CONFERENCES, SEASONAL BIBLE CONFERENCE-/-RETREATS). THE SEPARATION OF THE (TRUE BIBLE) CHRISTIAN FROM THE WORLD: THAT *******REALLY******* **********SCARES**********
    *************THE ILLUMINATI*************.

    THE CHRISTIAN, WHEN HE STARTS BECOMING SEPARATED FROM THE WORLD AND, WHEN A MAN TEACHES THE *******LORDSHIP******* OF *******CHRIST*******; THAT CAUSES THAT AND THEY’RE (THE ******ILLUMINATI****** ARE) SCARED OF THAT: BECAUSE THAT’S AN ENEMY THEY CAN’T REACH. . .ONE WHO’S SOLD OUT (TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST), OKAY, — THAT’S, THAT’S THE MAIN REASON — ***ALSO*** HE (*******JACK HYLES*******) TEACHES ON THE ILLUMINATI AND OTHER THINGS.

    AND HE (*******JACK HYLES*******) TEACHES THE WAY IT (THE *************ILLUMINATI*************) REALLY EXISTS: NOT THE WAY SOMEBODY IN MACON, GEORGIA SAYS. . . YES !”

    Well, Sister Natsarim & Saints, BR.-/-DR. JACK (FRASURE) HYLES WAS MY PASTOR FROM 1990 (THE YEAR I LEFT BOB JONES UNIVERSITY) UNTIL DR.-/-BR. JACK HYLES WENT TO BE WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IN FEBRUARY OF 2001.

    Truthfully, Honestly, Sincerely Yours And Faithfully Recorded & Submitted,

    Tony Cisneros
    2011 (& Possible 2015) Candidate For City Treasurer,
    City Of Chicago,
    State Of Illinois,
    United States Of America.

    P.S.-IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THE *************ILLUMINATI************* COULDN’T &-OR WOULDN’T DO *************9-11*************: UNTIL AFTER THE PHYSICAL DEATH OF **************BR.-/-DR. JACK HYLES************** ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  6. First, let me say, I love Kent Hovind and his creation message. So I am NOT a Kent Hovind basher. But listen, let’s be honest here, Kent’s legal problems are NOT about persecution of his Biblical Creation beliefs, they are about his questionable dealings with the USA IRS system. How many times in his lectures would Kent say stuff like … “And I RESENT my tax dollars going to help promote this Macroevolutionary theory!”.

    This “resentment” Hovind held, sadly, grew into actions he took. Read his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#Legal_problems He spent 5 years in court squabbling over a 50 dollar building permit the town of Pensicola said he needed for his Dinosaur Adventure Land. I mean SERIOUSLY!!! What kind of a man is so hateful of his town and their laws?

    Here’s the wikipedia entry …. _________________________________________________
    “On September 13, 2002, Hovind was charged for failure to observe county zoning regulations with respect to Dinosaur Adventure Land.[39] Despite arguments that the owners did not need a permit due to the nature of the building, the park was found in violation of local regulations.[142]

    After a 5-year misdemeanor court battle over the $50 building permit, on June 5, 2006, Hovind pled nolo contendere as charged to three counts: constructing a building without a permit, refusing to sign a citation,[143] and violating the county building code.[144] Hovind was ordered to pay $225 per count. That month Hovind complied with the county law:[143] Hovind estimated he spent $40,000 in legal expenses on this case,[145] but, in a 2002 CSE newsletter, Hovind requested donations stating that the costs approached $100,000.”
    _________________________________________________

    Listen, if this inident alone doesn’t tell you “Kent has a problem with authority”, I don’t know what else does. It is BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE, that those in authority in Pensacola sought to investigate Kent in detail, and demand he comply with the laws of his town.

    The bottom-line is this … Kent could have taken another COMPLETELY DIFFERENT path in his life, concerning his attitude towards government, etc. He could have glady and happily paid his towns measily $50 dollar building permit. He could have glady and happily desired to set up his “creation business” to pay his town, state, and governments taxes, realizing that taxes go for MUCH MORE than simple “promoting evolution in schools”. I mean, seriously? Come on!!! Our taxes go to the police, the fireman, road repair, bridge repair, etc..etc..etc.. We should be thankful for our country and those people, not suspicious and borderline hateful of them!

    So, in my humble opinion … Kent should repent of his attitude towards authority, and ask God to fill his heart with love towards ALL people. If he would have just been greatful and happy to pay taxes and whatever else his town wanted, NONE OF THIS stuff would be hanging over Kent’s head! It’s really sad to see. And it makes me mad that Kent is so stubborn and hard-headed in this manner. Because of it, we have all lost a great macroevolutionary destroyer, and now, only his tapes and videos are doing the work.

    And you know what, maybe that’s the way God wants it!

    1. Yes, I know Kent is NOT in prison for the 5 year long $50 dollar building permit court battle, I was simply using that as an example of his character and attitude towards his town’s laws. (Fyi, I know why Kent is in Jail, and I know his current charges, and I’ve listened to his current recorded telephone calls and what he’s saying now.) Brass tax … he’s delusional. Brass tax .. he’s lying! He’s now saying “I’m not a tax protester, I’m not a tax evader, etc, etc”. Are you kidding me???

      I challenge you, or anyone else in an upcoming recorded telephone call, to ask Kent the HARD QUESTIONS about his past! Ask him WHY he filed for bankruptcy back in 1996 when he was making bucket loads of money? Ask him WHY he chose to structure his CSE ministries under “trust documents” purchased from Glenn Stoll, a known promoter of tax avoidance schemes? Ask him WHY he filed a ludicrous “power of attorney and revocation of signature” document in 1998? Ask him WHY some of his own CSE workers testified under oath, Kent boasted, he had “beat the tax system”!

      And I’m just scratchin’ the surface of all Kent and His wife were doing to avoid paying taxes! I mean it’s ridiculous! And now he has the gaul to say “I’m not a tax evader”. Come on!!! I love Kent, but I also love TRUTH!!! He doesn’t need you people pandering to him, and not asking him the tough questions. He needs someone to get on the phone with him, and go through the wikipedia’s factual article about him and his “legal problems”, and him OWN UP TO HIS DEEDS!! And then, he needs to humble himself and ask forgiveness to the Judge, say he’s going to be straight up in the future, and please be lenient with me! His stubborn, I-did-nothing-wrong, attitude is not going to get him ANYWHERE in court!

      Again, i challenge you to read through his short Wikipedia section about his “Legal problems”. It will only take you 5 or 10 minutes. Here it is … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#Federal_civil_tax_matters.2C_bankruptcy.2C_and_renouncing_citizenship_.281996.E2.80.932006.29 And then, after learning the FACTS of everything he was doing, you HONESTLY ASSESS his attitude towards taxes and understand WHY they found him guilty!!!

      Write me back ONLY after reading the above link, so we can discuss this stuff intelligently. Thanks. Btw, remember, I love Kent Hovind, and I want the best for him! I’m really saddened that he has chose to take this path in life, which has cost him dearly.

      1. Yes, I’m aware of Kent’s controversial remarks / political theories/ and conspiracy beliefs. I bought his 7 DVD series back in 2007, so I’m very familiar with all his ideas and remarks. And yes, you are correct, at the root, it is his ideas and thoughts on ALL these things that LED him to BEHAVE the way he did towards his town’s and country’s laws and taxes. And it is THESE DEEDS that have put him behind bars!

        Let’s just be honest, if Kent was STRAIGHT UP with us, he’d admit that he was doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to evade and avoid paying the taxes he rightly owed for his CSE ministry from the mid 1990’s right up until his incarceration in 2006. I mean that’s just the truth! And his ministry wasn’t a “church” as he’s still claiming! That ridiculous, his employees were clocking in, had vacations and sick day pay, etc. It was a BUSINESS! And business in this country OWE TAXES, and they should be willing and happy to pay them.

        I think what happened is his “business” grew bigger than he possibly imagined, and A LOT of money was coming in, and when he saw the taxes he owed on that kind of money, he just didn’t want to pay it! But this was his mistake! As the wikipedia, 2006 Pensacola article said, “The saddest thing: Had they (Hovind and his wife) cooperated with the agents, they probably wouldn’t be worrying about prison sentences now.”[174]

        All he had to do was cooperate. Get his business properly registered, and pay his taxes. If he would have done that, he’d been out the last 10 years, still preaching, and doing what he loves. But no! He’s just too hard-headed! And he’s still fighting “the system” as he calls it, I call it “authority”. And for that, he’s going to have a tough row to hoe all the way till the end. And that’s sad!

        So what do you think about bringing Kent’s TRUE DEEDS up to him on these “recorded phone calls” he’s doing now adays? Someone needs to do it! And you know what? Kent would probably hang up! He doesn’t want anyone calling him out on his deeds. He wants people like you to just agree with his conspiracy theories, and tax protesting ways, etc. But I’m telling you the truth … this is NOT GOING TO HELP HIM!

        So I DARE YOU to go thru wikipedia’s factual referenced entries concerning Kent’s “legal battles” on a recorded phone call with him. Bring up the silly bankruptcy claim, the Glenn Stoll “trust documents” he purchased, and all the other fraudulent means he used to conceal the ownership and control of his activities and properties to try and avoid paying taxes. I DARE YOU!

        And I’m done now. May God bless us all, and show us the way of love and truth.

        God bless you ~ Gabriel

        1. Just say, IF, by chance he did get the 2028 date right……. the Father just CHANGED it. He will NOT allow His Word to be discredited by Hal Lindsey, Camping, or any other date setter, such as this MAN!

          To “Gabriel” – You have lifted YOURSELF up before men, and because you have, you’ve ALREADY received your reward. PRIDE goeth before a fall.

  7. I have a dedicated FaceBook page for discussing the Hovind cases, and following the Hovind cases, and I have found that Hovind supporters have been quite reluctant to come out and engage in an open, honest discussion of Kent’s and Jo’s legal problems.

    Y’all are welcome to come around!

    I’m one of the people, whom Gabriel alluded to, with personal, direct experience with Kent Hovind “hanging up” on me when I pressed him to deal with substantive issues involved in his and Jo’s cases and his credibility in dealing with them. Now it seems his apologists have begun the habit of “hanging up” on me when pressed to come out, come clean, and openly, honestly deal with the issues.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Hovind-and-Jo-Hovind-v-USA-IRS/339508739517135

    Kent’s Latest False and/or Misleading Structuring Claims

    http://diggingforthetruth.podomatic.com/entry/2014-11-20T19_40_31-08_00

    Comments from Kent:

    5:00ff Kent raises questions as to just who is the “United States”, claiming he’s not sure just which one is after him!

    6:10ff Kent brings up the gold fringed flag, claiming its silent notice you are under maritime law when you enter the courtroom.

    7:15ff Kent claims to want the truth to get out about his case.

    7:25ff Kent claims he isn’t going to win in court or the mainstream media.

    8:00ff Kent calls for Congress to get a million phone calls asking for an investigation of Hovind’s case.

    8:40ff Kent claims to be just an ordinary guy who doesn’t understand all this court stuff.

    8:45ff Kent claims, before God, that he doesn’t believe he broke any laws that apply to him.

    11:40ff Kent characterizes the Government’s statement to him that “so, it is a crime to take out less than $10,000”.

    11:50ff Kent claims they told him that is how people avoid having the bank report transactions.

    12:05ff Kent claims the law requires 2 transactions in the same day; claiming there was no structuring.

    13:30ff Kent repeats his claim that there must be 2 transactions in the same day.

    13:40ff Kent repeats his claim that the law requires 2 transations in the same day and that total over $10,000.

    22:00ff Kent asks what exactly is the jurisdiction of the federal courts.

    22:15ff Kent claims we are under marshal law and it needs to be challenged.

    23:15ff Kent claims he’s never been offered a plea deal. He claims he would consider a deal where the Government gives up, expunges his record and pays him $25,000,000.

    25:25ff Kent is back on structuring and claims if you took out $100.00 a week for a 100 weeks you would have committed 100 crimes of structuring.

    And so ended Kent’s personal part of the interview program.

    Here again is the proposition that Kent and his people don’t want to discuss with me!

    Proposition for Discussion

    Withdrawing less than $10,000 in a single transaction
    with the intent to evade bank reporting requirements
    is a violation of the law and regulations and was at
    the time of the Hovind withdrawals in question and
    was the legal standard used to convict Kent Hovind
    of “structuring”.

    – Robert Baty: Affirm
    – Kent Hovind: Deny
    – Hovind Apologist: (To Affirm or Deny)

    —————————————————————–

    1. I also have a YAHOO! group at:

      https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Maury_and_Baty/info

      If all else fails, we might even set up something here and proceed in our chat about matters of mutual interest regarding the Hovind cases.

      Perhaps you have now heard that the God’s Property Radio folks have challenged Peter J Reilly of Forbes to a one-on-one telephone exchange. I got Peter interested in the Hovind cases and he’s been reporting on them since Jo’s Tax Case was decided (he specializes in tax matters at Forbes.com).

      There’s also a discussion of the Hovind cases at:

      http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=9731

      So, I am currently quite flexible if you want to make a proposal as to venue and as to any specifics you may wish me to take up with you.

      Thanks for ;your consideration and interest.

      1. Good!

        I listened and find it fascinating how Kent can spin things and folks seem to just lap it up as if he speaks “ex cathedra”.

        Maybe if he ever gets some legitimate interviews we will get some different insight in to what Kent is doing.

        I think Kent is “loving it”, consistent with the amateur evaluations that he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

        My personal, direct email exchange with Kent, up to the point where he cut and ran, is publicly available if you would care to review that and haven’t run across it yet. It’s in the public archives, searchable, of my YAHOO! group.

        I will wait to hear further from you should you wish to pursue our exchange and might have some specifics to chat about.

      2. I’ll look forward to hearing from you as to the prospects for continuing a discussion of whatever specifics you might think we have a mutual interest in pursuing.

        I am more than willing, where there is time and interest, to explaining my opinions about such things as you address in your latest.

        There’s definitely a place for the non-fallacious use of ad hominem when it comes to such cases as Kent, but I am more than willing to work with you on trying to avoid getting bogged down by such distractions.

        You are more than welcome to express your opinions about me and my efforts, and I will do likewise where it may seem appropriate.

        One of the problems I have noticed in the latest spate of interviews with Kent is the tendency to bring up 100 issues involving all sorts of things as if a deliberate effort to avoid having to talk about the specifics of Kent’s cases.

        That’s one reason why I formulated a rather simple, straightfoward proposition regarding a fundamental “structuring” issue that Kent and his people continue to misrepresent. I’m still waiting for Kent or one of his people to take up the negative to my affirmative on that and openly, honestly work through the conversation in order that that issue might be properly explored according to the time, talent and interest of the parties involved.

        Who knows, if you are concerned about my position on young-earth creation-science, you might want to consider successfully completing my Creationism 101 Critical Thinking Exercise.

      3. You wrote, in part:

        – “I will scrutinize your agenda and
        – overall assumptions regarding things
        – like government…as well.”

        In that context, you might want to review the readers’ comments section of Peter J Reilly’s Forbes article on the case of Mr. Cadrecha at:

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/04/11/cpa-need-to-know-when-to-call-in-tax-attorney/

        Peter pressed me to take up that case for commentary and I wound up getting involved with Mr. Cadrecha’s lawyers and the litigation.

        The readers’ comments section there reveals how I managed to bring out the IRS’ bungling of the case and formulate a legal theory, based on the facts of the case, and allow for the beat down of the IRS and the beat down of the Justice Department which resulted in a settlement of the case and a dismissal of the appeal.

        I thought it was kinda neat how that worked out for Cadrecha.

        You will also notice that it is a Florida case as is Hovind’s.

      4. @ TruthIsStrangerThanFiction

        This fellow appears to be a fan of yours; advertises this page on his and otherwise promotes the latest Kent Hovind movement!

        If you are seriously concerned about how folks express their opinions about such things, I would suggest you try your moral influence out on Jesse! I don’t come close to Jesse and Kent when it comes to being critical of my opposition; and I don’t intend to, having always taken the higher road regarding such things.

        Fan Feedback From Jesse Welch – Kent Hovind Supporter!
        https://www.facebook.com/Duskangels

        From “Posts to Page” at:
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Hovind-and-Jo-Hovind-v-USA-IRS/339508739517135

        From: Jesse Welsh
        Date: Monday, November 24, 2014
        Time: About 6:00 AM MT

        This is a sorry excuse for a Facebook page.

        Some wicked God hating liberal has faked this
        account and is pretending to be a Christian all
        the while hating God in his heart.

        I’m guessing it’s a Homosexual who wants
        revenge on Christians by lying and twisting the
        truth about a man of God named Kent Hovind.

        You ought to be ashamed of yourself because
        you will answer to God for your wickedness one
        day real soon.

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  8. I know this is going to sound negative but we as believers are NOT going to change the world, we are NOT going to usher in a great revival and turn the world around for God. Not going to happen, fact is just the opposite is going to happen and you’d better be prepared for it. God IS NOT INTERESTED in reforming this world. He is not going to reform it, he is going to destroy all governments and set up his own government.
    Quite getting all worked up about being persecuted, it has only just began. If you talk, teach, preach the Kingdom of God YOU ARE GOING TO BE ON THE GOVERNMENT HIT LIST. Not only the government will be on your butt, arresting and hassling you for “hate crime” also your friends, neighbors, family, co-workers, anyone who is not a true believer will hate you and persecute you and believe they are doing God a favor by putting a stop to you and your “hateful” gospel.
    We are in the birth pangs and the contractions are coming quicker and more forceful. Prepare yourself and hold firm in the Master and endure to the end.
    Quit thinking it is going to get better, it is not going to get better it is going to get worse, our Savior and Master told us it will and there is nothing we can do to stop it other then proclaim the gospel of the Kingdom and be prepared to get knocked to our knees for proclaiming him and his Kingdom.

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