The “C – Word”…

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So far I have more or less stayed away from this topic. I used to write about it all the time actually, back before I started learning about the various globalist machinations at work in my country and around the globe. Maybe I just got a little “burned out” on it, or maybe I just figured it was for the most part somewhat of a lost cause, especially once I started appreciating the true magnitude of difficulty inherent to coming to a place where one is finally open to the agendas going on around us which are so very evil. It’s still a fairly challenging issue for me to try and break down to someone, be they a Christian or not, as to why there is so much to be reticent about when it comes to institutional religion. But, since this topic has for whatever reason been coming up lately in several discussions I’ve been having with both devout Christians and devout atheists, I suppose it’s as good a time as any to dive into it with a post of my own…

Instead of beating around the bush I’ll just get right to the point. The vast majority of what is referred to as “church” today, is really a very significant departure from what it meant to the first followers of Jesus in the days of Acts.

Of course, not many people would argue with this in itself, but where the complexities begin to arise is in the question of whether or not all (or even much) that has arisen in the name of “doing church” over the centuries since Jesus walked the earth has been according to a Biblically-defensible guideline, or rather veered quite foolishly from it.

There are a good many rabbit-trails I could go down when considering the whole topic of “ecclesiology”, such as debating matters of hierarchical leadership, or the ways which institutional religious entities become reliant upon the regular financial support of it’s congregants (thus often blurring the lines between “ministry” and business), and I would no doubt have plenty of admittedly controversial opinions about them, but lately I have been finding myself focused on another issue above all these others, when it comes to the question of “church attendance” and being someone who has now spent a good many years living outside the “institutional box” as a Christian.

Imagine for a moment, a group of Christians living in the First Century AD, gathering together in their homes to pray and teach one another, in some city of the Roman Empire. Now, try and imagine that this little congregation, living in the heart of the Roman world, has virtually no comprehension that they are living in a pagan culture, with a pagan, “god-king” for an emperor…(!) Imagine that these people turned to Christ, and then somehow, suddenly believed that everything around them, all the pagan temples and Roman legions and coliseums where the gladiators fought, was all “redeemed” into having some sort of “Judeo-Christian value”.

So far this is the best analogy I’ve been able to come up with to describe how I feel so much of the time, living in a modern-day “Christian nation”, as it alleged by so many to be.

Oddly enough, my hypothetical example of the oblivious first-century “ekklesia” goes from being a bizarre analogy to being an echo of what would eventually transpire, when we step back a little farther and consider how the Roman empire became the “Holy” Roman Empire under Constantine. I’m not going to bother tracing the entire history of the papacy, or the nexus between the church and nations of Europe, or the uncomfortable relationship between European colonialism and Catholic expansion. etc. We all pretty much know how the flow of religious history trickled down to today.

But for me, the question is now just one of measuring the ability by which I might be able to walk into any given institutional Christian church, and just, well, start talking about any of the topics/questions I typically bring up right here on this blog. Right now, I find this to be a very significant measure indeed. Forget all the “typical” questions of whether churches are too “corporate” or not, too “liberal” or not, too “traditional” or not. Can I walk into a church and start talking about false flag terrorism? Would I not be regarded as some kind of quack, as people started wondering who the new guy is who is talking about the globalist agenda of the wars being fought in the Middle East? Could I dare even speculate on things such as George W. and his daddy not actually being Christians at all, but in fact something quite the inverse…? What if I asked people why there is an American Flag standing at the front of the “worship center”, does this mean we are to worship the Flag too?

Perhaps there are some church institutions where such a thing would be tolerated, but not many. Maybe in the context of a “small group”, where it wasn’t being heard in any larger setting, and the appointed leader could try to appropriately “moderate” the conversation, (I always found myself being “moderated” in such a way, even back from BEFORE I learned about all these crazy “conspiratorial” things!)

“But those aren’t appropriate things to discuss in church!” (I imagine a typical response to what I just said might be…) “We come together to worship God, and learn about His Word, not let anyone come in and rant about their hair-brained theories!”

Again, I would refer back to the analogy of the first-century church. Can you imagine these folks getting together and deciding that it was inappropriate to talk about the historical context they were living in? Could they have ignored the magicians and fortune-tellers who filled the marketplaces, or the Roman military campaigns which constantly brought in slaves from newly-acquired sections of the empire? Could they have pretended that there were no demon-possessed people, tormented and talking to themselves in alleyways or the outskirts of town?

Could they have ignored the “spirit of anti-Christ” which was at work in the world around them, driving the bloodlust of martyr-burning emperors such as Nero, or the infiltration of Gnostic false-teaching into the Gospel itself?

I know a good many churches, and pastors, and congregations today, are aware that we are seeing the Signs of the Times, and rapidly approaching the Last Days as prophesied in the Bible. I know a good many of them do believe that the anti-Christ is possibly alive and walking the earth right this minute even. But what I don’t see or hear many of them openly saying, is that our own, “Christian nation”, is very much at the center of bringing this unholy kingdom upon the earth, and has been for some time now. It’s common enough to hear pastors or prophecy teachers talk about the ever-encroaching Muslims, or the “cup of trembling” coming upon Israel, or Ezekiel this and Isaiah that, or decry the woes of Obama socialism, etc. But will they stop and look at what their own “New Atlantis” has all truly contributed towards the construction and propagation of a one-world system? Are they willing to examine the true nature of this economic/military juggernaut with which they have indeed incorporated themselves with by filing as a 501c3 organization?

As such, it is really not all that surprising that within these government-affiliated (and tax-exempt) organizations there isn’t a very open climate to criticizing whatever nefarious aspects of the State, or the global “Super-State” being erected as the sovereignty of our own nation is increasingly left to die like a terminal patient pulled off of life-support. Though these developments might certainly be inevitable, what should not be inevitable is the decision to continue along the path of accepting the carrot-on-a-stick scenario that is the ubiquitous practice of 501c3 affiliation. While it might be true that foregoing this corporate status could make things like buying church buildings or paying pastor’s salaries a lot more difficult, I remain fully convinced by the example of Scripture itself that these things are indeed not nearly as requisite for the Body to gather together and edify each other as we have long been led to believe.

We are not yet in the New Jerusalem. We are in Rome. We are in Babylon. And the time to wake up, and come out, is descending upon us.

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5 thoughts on “The “C – Word”…”

  1. Hmm, interesting. I do empathize with your concerns about the church, government, the NWO, the end times.

    I had a series of dreams about similar things and there was no one within the church or even outside of it that I could possibly talk too. The truth of that really threw me for another loop. It’s a bit like “Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions,” and the church will say, “Eww weird Christians, too charismatic, what a bunch of fruit loops. Go away.”

    Then there are the others, those who have their own charismatic agenda, so invested that Christ Himself couldn’t interrupt their end time preparations.

    God changed those dreams for me and they became about a wedding, a time of rejoicing and great feasting. It’s a bit funny to go to God in complete despair and have Him tell you, “rejoice, it’s the end of the world,” but that is exactly what it was like. Scripture also tells us to do exactly that.

    There are tiny churches, bible studies and believers all over the place gathering in small groups. The church really is the Body of Christ, it is not really an institution.

    A while back this guy told me, “you know the first place Satan is going to go is into the church.” I suspect that is true, I suspect he is already there. The bible however tells us “upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” I believe that also.

    So, in the midst of all this dark stuff, take heart. All will be well. These things are simply going to play themselves out.

  2. Nietzsche said that there was only one Christian who ever lived … the one who died on the cross … in other words things had already gone wrong when Acts was written, especially that despicable character Saul/Paul … and let’s face it Luke was making overtures to the Romans already in the way it is written to fit the context of their empire..

      1. Well first of all I should say that I share your ambivalence regarding institutionalised Christianity and strongly agree that whereas one would expect the really important issues to be addressed by Christian churches of all denominations it is a rare thing to find. Maybe some Quaker groups and Christian Anarchists at least try although I share your reluctance to go on in there and start sharing my concerns with them.

        I’m not sure about what the apostles preached, or even Jesus for that matter. As for the Four Evangelists: Mark doesn’t seem to know what’s hit him, Matthew is largely concerned with showing that Jesus is the fulfilment of the Jewish scriptures and within his historical context I would speculate that this event had universal implications as far as he was concerned, similarly the writer of Luke and Acts, alongside ‘sucking up to the Romans’ and telling the apostle’s and Saul/Paul’s story. The whole thing about pentecost and speaking in tongues is surely an inherently universal idea?

        Now all of the above had a problem, perhaps with the exception of Mark: the delay of the parousia/end of times.

        I’ll leave John, not to be confused with John of Patmos until later, for now let’s have a look at Paul who is more likely to have invented than re-invented the gospel given that all of his letters pre-date the writings of the Four Evangelists. Their value lies in the fact that they provide an insight into how Paul brought unity and order to a group of discrete Christian communities scattered around the shores of the Mediterranean. Thus was born the Roman Church. At the same time he formulated a Christology which was in large part concerned with solving the aforementioned delay of the parousia. The central teaching of Paul: that there is neither gentile (everyone who isn’t Jewish) or Jew but we are all one in Christ Jesus again is surely a universal claim as far as Paul is concerned?

        So, just John to go then, writing in or around 100 CE, 30 years after the Romans destroyed the temple in Jerusalem and at a time when Christians were being ‘put out of the synagogues’ … well John solves the delay of the parousia by presenting Jesus as preaching a realised eschatology the end of times is in the past as far as he is concerned. Informed action is the only requirement. I agree with the comment above: ‘There are tiny churches, bible studies and believers all over the place gathering in small groups. The church really is the Body of Christ, it is not really an institution.’

        If you’re looking for the anti-Christ then look no further than the dominant institutionalised versions of Christianity all around us.

        Every generation thinks it’s living in the end times … the solution is to live in and for the present.

        John Ch. 12 …
        23 And Jesus answered them,saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man must be glorified.
        24 Verily,verily I say unto you, Except the wheat corn fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
        25 He that loveth his life, shall lose it, and he that hateth his life in this world, shall keep it unto life eternal.
        26 If any man serve me, let him follow me: for where I am, there shall my servant be: and if any man serve me, him will my father honour.

        Death of God/Church/Ego/Eschaton? I think so!

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