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Wandering Stars…

The other day I was listening to Pandora and heard this song by Portishead, and even though I’d probably heard it dozens of times before, suddenly the words jumped out at me. “Wait, isn’t this a line straight out of the Bible somewhere..?”

“Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved, the blackness, of darkness, forever….”

Sure enough, it’s right out of the book of Jude, (verse 13), in the same chapter where the book of Enoch is quoted, as the wicked men who pervert the Gospel of Jesus are likened to the fallen angels who sinned before the Flood and incurred the fearsome judgment of being cast into the Abyss.

I suppose the reason such words suddenly stuck out to me has much to do with all the pondering I’ve been doing lately around all this “flat earth stuff”. Even though I’m fairly sure that the majority of my already minuscule readership is probably quite put off be treating such a topic with any degree of seriousness, I suppose I just don’t really care at this point, and to be honest it’s somewhat freeing. In the end however I think I’m really much less interested in debating specific aspects of various flat-earth models or the vast lies of institutions like NASA, and more interested in exploring the ways in which suspending our long-held assumptions about what we “know” about the universe might actually help unveil certain plain yet profound truths about the ways in the physical and spiritual dimensions are intertwined.

One of the fascinating tidbits which has arisen through the consideration of flat earth ideas in relation to ancient Biblical and pagan cosmologies, is the question of what exactly the planets ARE, if indeed the “heavens” are not actually “outer space” as we have been taught our whole lives that they exist, but instead something far nearer and more pressing upon us, and yet at the same time much more mysterious and mystical, more mind-bendingly spiritual in their supra-dimensional aspects.

We all know how much the ancients were enthralled by the planets, to the point of worshipping them and naming the days of the week after them, but of course, we also must admit that they weren’t imagining spheroids orbiting around a solar system, but rather saw them as “wandering stars” who didn’t follow the paths of the other constellations.

How absolutely fascinating that this is precisely what the Bible seems to describe them as being…

The angels who fell to earth and “kept not their first estate”, were those who taught mankind warfare and witchcraft, seduction and civil engineering, the building blocks of “civilization” (or the hierarchical elements necessary for empire and oppression, depending on how you look at it…)

But these earth-bound luminaries are those credited with bringing that first Promethean spark to humanity, the golden gods and plumed serpents for whom the first wave of ante-deluvian cities and temples and monoliths were all erected for. Should it come as any big surprise that all the ancient pagan temples and mystery schools are obsessed with celestial alignments and zodiacs and astronomical affiliations?

The ancient astronaut folks are of course convinced that this is because our panspermiating, extra-terrestrial space fore-fathers came to this planet in ages past in their Corrillian starships and helped us evolve out of ape-hood. Their fixation with the stars is interpreted almost precisely the way the archeologists in the film Prometheus present it, as some kind postcard from our ancient alien homeworld.

But according to the Bible, these “gods” were not alien saviors or benevolent gift-givers, but rebellious angels who abandoned their posts in God’s order of Creation. And if this is so, then would it not perhaps make a great deal of sense to see why a deception might be foisted upon the world, as to reality of the nature of the heavenlies, to the connection between the angelic and the skies above which we see with our own eyes…?

Would it not fit quite seamlessly to conceive of a fictionalized Copernican cosmology to serve as the foundation for the fictionalized Darwinian paradigm?

Like chapters in a fairy tale book they build on each other, and create an encapsulating worldview which is quite apart from that of Genesis, and after enough time has passed, (and this is the facet which I find intriguing), it sets the stage for another introduction of these same photo-morphic beings within a new “modern scientific” context. In short, in order to pose as “alien creatures from outer space”, first you’d have to establish the concept of what “outer space” even IS in the minds of the public.

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I dunno…. Perhaps I really have just lost my marbles completely at this point and should feel free to continue on in my own delusion without feeling like I need to write about it here. I will say that my perspective, on so many things, has felt quite different of late. I’ve spent far less time fretting over news headlines or NWO shenanigans the past few weeks than I have searching the scriptures with a new found fervor, and staring up at the day and night sky, just marveling at it all… It’s odd. Almost as though it feels like I’m actually starting to come out on the other side of some long, dark tunnel, as if the “rabbit hole” really does have an exit far on the other side. But of course, it wouldn’t be fitting if it didn’t turn out to place you squarely back where everything began, in that delicious sort of irony which reminds you just how much a sense of humor God really must have. Somehow, the machinations of the Enemy seem more laughable to me now than ever before, the more you realize how rebellion against God is the seed of all self-delusion, we weave and accept the stories about everything which best suit our predetermined sources of sovereignty. This is how it has always been. Even the angels, who watched the Earth and heavens being formed by the Hand of God Himself, who encircled the throne and worshiped Him in His full glory, still some fell, conspired even, and then set about spinning tales and twisted accounts of their descent. That’s all I see the ancient pagan mythologies and “mysteries” and pantheons as adding up to in the end, as attempts by the “wandering stars” to whitewash their damnable errors and confuse humanity into worshiping them, instead of the One who made us all….

America, Blueprint for World Federalism and a “D.W.O.”..?

The history of our civilization is reaching its final destination. From a chaotic amalgam of competing and rival nations, the world is evolving into a unitary framework, in which different organized communities cooperate to prevent conflicts and promote the progress of humanity.

The above eyebrow-raising quote above is from the World Federalist Manifesto. I currently find my interest in the topic of Federalism being increasingly piqued, especially as I learn more about it in the context of it’s central role in the political debate since the very inception of the United States itself. I admit I am torn as I write this. Part of me wonders if the themes presenting themselves in such a discussion are already overly obvious to anyone who would be prone to reading it, and so the whole thing might be an exercise in redundancy, yet at the same time I feel as though the ramifications of World Federalism, and the role in which the U.S. has played in bringing the world closer and closer to it, is of such universal importance that it would hardly seem to be something that could ever be exhaustively treated.

Recently I have begun plodding my way through a copy of the “Federalist Papers”, an endeavor which unintentionally sparked a more pointed study of the whole topic I just described. While I confess that trying that trying to plod through the actual words of Madison and Hamilton has proven quite laborious, (due to the profuse usage of rambling, 18th Century sesquipedalian rhetoric), simply becoming more familiar with the gist of the debate itself has provided a much more focused picture of the early American political landscape, and also gone a long way in tracing the connections between the themes present at that time with those of our own day. In short, I find it fascinating to ponder the possibility that the very creation of the United States itself, has embedded within it’s own “political DNA” the inherent questions, arguments and obstacles connected to the broader challenge of actualizing a true, functioning, global government.

From my perspective, the formation of the United States is such a curious thing, and like so many other matters, I find it increasingly difficult not to view it through some kind of Hegelian lens. The “Federalist Papers”, as I have been recently learning, were a series of what were essentially political op-ed pieces, published bi-weekly in New York newspapers roughly a decade after the 13 American colonies achieved independence and established a government based upon it’s original founding document, the Articles of Confederation

But apparently there were many in the newly formed American Republic who became convinced that the Articles were insufficient, and so a campaign was mounted to try and convince enough of the newly formed States to ratify something which would provide a more effective and “energized” Union, a more powerfully endowed Federal government. The Constitution… At the time, New York State was one of the most stalwart of resistors against replacing the Articles of Confederation, and so these articles were written in hopes of swaying the voting public of New York towards a more sympathetic stance towards elevating the principles of a stronger Union.

(But hmmmmm… The ideals of Confederacy, pitted against the ideals of the Union. Why does that sound familiar? Ah, who knows…)

But is it not peculiar, when you stop and think about it, that the “Founding Fathers” decided to attempt this precarious approach to democratic government to begin with, in what would eventually be dubbed the “Great American Experiment”, whereby they started off by bequeathing the full privilege of “sovereignty” to each of the original 13 colonies (and I will try my best here to restrain from hypothesizing on the bizarre “coincidence” of them being 13 in number), yet each one a piece of a larger whole, a move which essentially created from the start the quasi-paradoxical scenario of determining which level of “sovereignty” truly held in the long run? The question of how state sovereignty could co-exist with a Federal sovereignty is a theme which fills many pages of the Federalist Papers, and so it is quite remarkable that a political debate which sprang forth in the first few years of the country’s existence has of course endured right up into our own time. It is essentially the quandary behind determining whether goal of the “experiment” was intended to result in the creation of a United States, or the United States…

Okay, I will cease with my lame topical prefacing here, and just get to my underlying point. As I see it, the fabricated political paradox of the State/Federal tension, serves (whether you want to ascribe it to sheer coincidence, or more calculated intention) as a pointedly applicable road map towards the eventual establishment of the same thing on a global scale, whereby the sovereignty of individual nations (“states”) are much less of a contrived and juvenile decision (as applied to the original 13 colonies), but the derivations of centuries upon centuries of combined historical, political, cultural and ancestral contexts. In short, the United States of America is as close a thing to a blueprint for establishing A Federalized (Centralized) Global Government as there ever has yet been.

So much could be touched upon as tangential explorations of this idea over the 200 plus years of history of the American empire, it’s hard to know where to go next. Simply examining the ramifications of these developments on the plane of economics alone could probably fill another ten posts, not to mention the arenas of things such as global militarization, cultural homogenization, technological revolutions, and so on. The ways that the United States of America could be demonstrated to have been steadily preparing and driving the rest of the world towards the eventuality of a true global empire are numerous and almost impossible to overstate. And for myself, the more this reality permeates my conscious reflection upon the nation of my birth, and the various political, economic and militaristic contexts of today, the more I am increasingly compelled to distance myself from the persistent narrative within American citizenry which longs for some nostalgic return to “Founding American Principles”, particularly the strain of this narrative commonly found amongst those who regard America as being built upon some set of allegedly “Christian Values”…

Where did Jesus, or His disciples, or the Early Church, ever agonize over things like the balance of powers between the governmental sovereignty of an individual “State” and it’s overarching Federal counterpart? Where do we find in the New Testament (or the Old…) deliberations on the definitions and protections of property, whether “realty” or “personalty”?

For the majority of my lifetime, I have been surrounded by a good many well-intentioned, patriotic, church-going folks, who have simplistically regarded things like the Constitution as though they had effectively been produced from the minds of more modernized prophets of the Almighty, primarily concerned with issues of individual rights and liberties as understood through a paradigm whereby all men are created by God, when in fact the more I look into it for myself, I find that such questions are themselves really only secondary to the core convictions tied to finance and industry, which the Founders seemed most primarily concerned with. I have come across a book written back in 1913 titled “An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution”, by Charles Beard, which puts forth a number of incredibly fascinating proposals indeed. In many ways it does challenge to turn a number of commonly held assumptions about the true nature and purpose of the ratification of the Constitution on their heads, yet at this point in my life I suppose I have become quite accustomed to having my previously-held assumptions and paradigms turned on their heads, and so at this stage this sort of perspective tends to add more light and clarity to such considerations than it does to confuse them. I am still in the process of trying to read this work in it’s entirety, and so I expect I will most likely be speaking more on it’s possible implications in the future.

But where to end this… Bringing it back to the present, I suppose the parallel between the late 1700’s and the modern world which most stands out to me is this question of how/when a centralized, Federally-modeled global government goes from being one which simply exists on paper, or just in some superficially-institutionalized form, to being one that has (as the writers of the Federalist Papers described it) one that has sufficient “energy” to truly exercise governance. That is essentially the transition point at which the world lies right now. After all, the United Nations has already been in existence, to a degree, since the close of WWII (and saw a type of incarnation even prior to that, with the failed “League of Nations”, I suppose), yet everyone knows that despite it’s decades of councils and resolutions and everything else, the U.N. does not hold true sovereignty over the sovereignty of individual nations to the same degree that Washington and the Federal branches hold ultimate sovereignty over the fifty “states” in the Union. The P.O.T.U.S. and the Secretary of State, etc., are still considered to have far more true practical sway over the affairs of global politics than say, the Secretary-General of the U.N. But, I do sincerely believe that this is state of affairs that will eventually change. Moreover, I believe that the intention was always for such a change to occur. The transition will be brought about, (through whatever specific calamity or set of calamities), so that the “Phoenix” of the Global, Federal, Government, will rise from the ashes of it’s precursor. This is why it should come as absolutely no surprise that the symbol of the United States is that of the Phoenix, disguised with the exoteric form of an “eagle”.

The “Great Experiment”, the “United States” (which if you think about it, is merely another way of coining the term, “United Nations”) must “die”, so it can then be reborn on the scale and scope of the entire world, for “Federalism”, as it’s own internal nature dictates, can ultimately aspire to no lesser aim.

I’ll close this post by simply directing the reader to a most intriguing example of what I am talking about, which I found on the Democratic World Federalist’s website, in an article titled “Stop the New World Order”, the argument being put forth that the current New World Order run by Oligarchs and Banksters etc., needs to be replaced by a “Democratic World Order”, where “we, the people” are in charge instead of a small group of people unaccountable to the world.” This kind of sentiment no doubt sounds about as appealing to the global citizenry of today as it did to those in the 1700’s who were tired of the tyranny of ol’ King George, and I fully expect this same type of message to be that which takes a deeper hold on the hearts and minds of people in the coming years, and America breathes it’s final, dying breaths, and it’s long-awaited offspring, the Phoenix, prepares to rise from it’s ashes…

Some Advice on Same-Sex Marriage for the US Church From A Canadian…

Reposted from Canadian pastor Carey Nieuwhof’s blog. Lots of really great points in here:

Some Advice on Same-Sex Marriage for US Church Leaders From a Canadian

In June 2015, the US Supreme Court ruled that same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states, setting off a flurry of reaction by Christians and virtually everyone else on social media and beyond.

Ed Stetzer wrote a helpful background post to the shift in opinion that led to the decision and included links to a number of other leading articles in his post.

The social media reaction ranged from surprising to predictable to disappointing to occasionally refreshing.

I write from the perspective of a pastor of an evangelical church in a country where same sex-marriage has been the law of the land for a decade.

That does not mean I hold any uniquely deep wisdom, but it does mean we’ve had a decade to process and pray over the issue.

I hope what I offer can help. It’s my perspective. My fingers tremble at the keyboard because my goal is to help in the midst of a dialogue that seems far more divisive than it is uniting or constructive.

There will be many who disagree with me, I’m sure, but I hope it pulls debate away from the “sky is falling/this is the best thing ever” dichotomy that seems to characterize much of the dialogue so far.

The purpose of this post is not to take a position or define matters theologically (for there is so much debate around that). Rather, the purpose of this post is to think through how to respond as a church when the law of the land changes as fundamentally as it’s changing on same-sex marriage and many other issues.

Here are 5 perspectives I hope are helpful as church leaders of various positions on the subject think and pray through a way forward.

1. The church has always been counter-cultural

Most of us reading this post have been born into a unique season in history in which our culture is moving from a Christian culture to a post-Christian culture before our eyes.

Whatever you think about history, theology or exactly when this shift happened, it’s clear for all of us that the world into which we were born no longer exists.

Viewpoints that were widely embraced by culture just decades ago are no longer embraced. For some this seems like progress. For others, it seems like we’re losing something. Regardless, things have changed fundamentally.

But is that really such a big deal? For most of the last 2000 years, the authentic church has been counter-cultural. The church was certainly counter-cultural in the first century.

Even at the height of ‘Christendom’ (whenever that was), the most conservative historians would agree that Christianity as embraced by the state was different than the authentic Christianity we read about in scripture or that was practiced by many devout followers of Jesus.

Being counter-cultural usually helps the church more than hurts it.

.If you think about it, regardless of your theological position, all your views as a Christian are counter-cultural and always will be. If your views are cultural, you’re probably not reading the scriptures closely enough.

.Regardless of your theological position, all your views as a Christian should be counter-cultural.

.We’re at our best when we offer an alternative, not just a reflection of a diluted or hijacked spirituality.

2. It’s actually strange to ask non-Christians to hold Christian values

As the Barna Group has pointed out, a growing number of people in America are best described as post-Christian. The majority of Canadians would certainly qualify as having a post-Christian worldview.

The question Christians in a post-Christian culture have to ask themselves is this:

Why would we expect non-Christians to behave like Christians?

If you believe sex is a gift given by God to be experienced between a man and a woman within marriage, why would you expect people who don’t follow Christ to embrace that?

Why would we expect people who don’t profess to be Christians to:

Wait until marriage to have sex?

Clean up their language?

Stop smoking weed?

Be faithful to one person for life?

Pass laws like the entire nation was Christian?

Seriously? Why?

Why do Christians expect non-Christians to behave like Christians? Why?

Most people today are not pretending to be Christians. So why would they adopt Christian values or morals?

Please don’t get me wrong.

I’m a pastor. I completely believe that the Jesus is not only the Way, but that God’s way is the best way.

When you follow biblical teachings about how to live life, your life simply goes better. It just does. I 100 percent agree.

I do everything I personally can to align my life with the teachings of scripture, and I’m passionate about helping every follower of Christ do the same.

But what’s the logic behind judging people who don’t follow Jesus for behaving like people who don’t follow Jesus?

Why would you hold the world to the same standard you hold the church?

First, non-Christians usually act more consistently with their value system than you do.

It’s difficult for a non-Christian to be a hypocrite because they tend to live out what they believe.

Chances are they are better at living out their values than you or I are. Jesus never blamed pagans for acting like pagans.

But he did speak out against religious people for acting hypocritically. Think about that.

Non-Christians usually act more consistently with their value system than Christians do.

3. You’ve been dealing with sex outside of traditional marriage for a LONG time

If you believe gay sex is sinful, it’s really no morally different than straight sex outside of marriage.

Be honest, pretty much every unmarried person in your church is having sex (yes, even the Christians).

I know you want to believe that’s not true (trust me, I want to believe that’s not true), but why don’t you ask around? You’ll discover that only a few really surrender their sexuality.

Not to mention the married folks that struggle with porn, lust and a long list of other dysfunctions.

If you believe gay marriage is not God’s design, you’re really dealing with the same issue you’ve been dealing with all along—sex outside of its God-given context.

You don’t need to treat it any differently.

By the way, if you don’t deal with straight sex outside of marriage, don’t start being inconsistent and speak out against gay sex.

And you may want to start dealing with gluttony and gossip and greed while you’re at it. (I wrote more here about how to get the hypocrisy out of our sex talk in church.)

At least be consistent…humbly address all forms of sex outside of marriage.

The dialogue is possible. (Andy Stanley offers a great rationale for sex staying inside marriage here.)

We have that dialogue all the time at our church.

And people are grateful for it.

We also talk about our greed, our gluttony, our jealousy and our hypocrisy as Christians. It’s amazing. Jesus brings healing to all these areas of life, including our sex lives.

If you don’t talk about straight sex outside of marriage, don’t talk about gay sex.

4. The early church never looked to the government for guidance

Having a government that doesn’t embrace the church’s values line for line actually puts Christians in some great company—the company of the earliest followers of Jesus.

Jesus spent about zero time asking the government to change during his ministry. In fact, people asked him to become the government, and he replied that his Kingdom is not of this world.

The Apostle Paul appeared before government officials regularly. Not once did he ask them to change the laws of the land.

He did, however, invite government officials to have Jesus personally change them.

Paul constantly suffered at the hands of the authorities, ultimately dying under their power, but like Jesus, didn’t look to them for change.

Rather than asking the government to release him from prison, he wrote letters from prison talking about the love of Jesus Christ.

Instead of looking to the government for help, Paul and Jesus looked to God.

None of us in the West are suffering nearly as radically as Jesus and Paul suffered at the hands of a government. In fact, in Canada and the US, our government protects our freedom to assemble and even disagree with others. Plus, it gives us tax breaks for donations.

We honestly don’t have it that hard.

Maybe the future North American church will be more like the early church, rising early, before dawn, to pray, to encourage, to break bread.

Maybe we will pool our possessions and see the image of God in women. And love our wives radically and deeply with a protective love that will shock the culture. Maybe we will treat others with self-giving love, and even offer our lives in place of theirs.

Maybe we’ll be willing to lose our jobs, our homes, our families and even our lives because we follow Jesus.

That might just touch off a revolution like it did two millennia ago.

Perhaps the government might even take notice, amazed by the love that radical Jesus followers display.

Instead of looking to the government for help, Paul and Jesus looked to God.

5. Our judgment of LGBT people is destroying any potential relationship

Even the first 72 hour of social media reaction has driven a deeper wedge between Christian leaders and the LGBT community Jesus loves (yes, Jesus died for the world because he loves it).

Judgment is a terrible evangelism strategy.

People don’t line up to be judged.

Judgment is a terrible evangelism strategy. People don’t line up to be judged. Instead, they flee.

If you want to keep being ineffective at reaching unchurched people, keep judging them.

Judging outsiders is un-Christian. Paul told us to stop judging people outside the church.

Jesus said God will judge us by the same standard with which we judge others.

If you want to be ineffective at reaching unchurched people, judge them.

Paul also reminds us to drop the uppity-attitude; that none of us were saved by the good we did but by grace.

Take a deep breath. You were saved by grace. Your sins are simply different than many others. And honestly, in many respects, they are the same.

People don’t line up to be judged. But they might line up to be loved.

So love people. Especially the people with whom you disagree.

Love people. Especially the people with whom you disagree.

Those are a few of the things I’ve learned and I’m struggling with.

The dialogue is not easy when culture is changing and people who sincerely love Jesus sincerely disagree.

I think there’s more hope than there is despair for the future. The radical ethic of grace and truth found in Jesus is more desperately needed in our world today than ever before.

Is the path crystal clear? No.

But rather than being a set back, perhaps this can move the church yet another step closer to realizing its true mission.

I was tempted to close comments off on this post, but I will leave them open just to see if we can continue the discussion constructively and humbly.

Rants and abusive viewpoints (on either side) will be deleted.

Show grace.

Respect those with whom you disagree.

If you want to leave a comment that helps, please do so.

But please spend at least as much time praying for the situation and for people you know who have been hurt by this dialogue as you do commenting on this post, on others like it or on your social media channels.

Maybe spend more time praying, actually.

That’s what we all really need. And that’s what will move the mission of the church forward.

“Lightning Storm”…

“It is He who made the earth by His power, Who established the world by His wisdom; And by His understanding He has stretched out the heavens. When He utters His voice, there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, And He causes the clouds to ascend from the end of the earth; He makes lightning for the rain, And brings out the wind from His storehouses.” – Jeremiah 10:12-13

Driving home the other night, a storm had blown into the valley, and suddenly the sky was all alight with awe-inspiring tendrils of electricity. The lightning storms here are quite a thing to behold. Tried to capture the split-second moment in a sketch the following day.

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HOVINDICATION Update…

I’m still trying to parse out all the real details of exactly what has happened down in Florida re: the trials of Kent Hovind and Paul J. Hansen. From what I can glean thus far, the pending charges which were slated for retrial have now been suddenly dropped, (but as far as I can tell the charges which previously received guilty verdicts are still in place). It’s hard to tell if this was just a move made by the courts in order to attempt to retry Kent and Paul on the fraud/conspiracy charges, or what. As of right now both men remain in custody and we must continue to pray for their release…

“Enochian Cosmology” and the Flat/Round Earth…

This weekend I had a bit of an “epiphany” while doing some Bible reading. Maybe not an epiphany to the degree of suddenly feeling like “Aha, I figured it all out, I know the answer!”, but more the kind of epiphany where I at least feel like perhaps I have begun to stumble upon what the real question might actually be…

I was reading through the Book of Revelation (it had actually been a while since I just sat down and read through it), and I got to the point in chapter 8 where the “Trumpet judgments” begin. In verse ten it says, “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water – the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”

Now, we all know that literal stars, (essentially huge masses of gases performing thermonuclear fusion), could not “fall to Earth” without completely obliterating it, and so understandably we take on an interpretation of such verses as involving more than just literal stars. Along with a following verse in chapter 9 which reads, “The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace…”, it got me thinking about the whole angels/stars association in the whole of the Bible, and then suddenly I’m also thinking about the “Flat Earth” issue which I’ve been seeing receive a fair amount of attention lately.

biblical_earthI’ll just cut to the chase here. What suddenly dawned on me was the idea that this concept of a “Flat Earth”, or enclosed system, might actually be accurate after all, only, not in the way that so many people think. What I mean is: What if “Flat Earth Cosmology” wasn’t intended as a mere physical description of the universe at all, but rather a metaphysical one..?

The very moment this question popped into my head, my mind started racing and running through all the little bits and pieces of “back-burner info” that suddenly were making a ton of sense within such a conceptual construct. I began thinking about the “Flatlander” metaphor once again, (which I’ve written about before in the context of reflecting upon higher dimensions as beings confined to a three-dimensional reality).

I quickly began to think that surely this is perspective which other people have already (re)discovered, and sure enough, it is. I found this summation to be quite poignant:

“…If the flat-earth cosmology of the ancients appears to the critical modern mind as physically naïve, we should remind ourselves that it related primarily to the inward, or vertical, dimension of existence. Flat-earth cosmology was the product of a fundamentally different intention from that of our own modern cosmology. It was not meant to chart precisely the physical cosmos but to represent symbolically a metaphysical order of being. For all it’s physical naivete, it had a spiritual profundity that is totally absent from the physically sophisticated but metaphysically barren modern cosmology. The ancients lived in a world that could be entered into and experienced in it’s inward depth; the moderns, oblivious of the depth dimension, are content to map in interminable detail outer surfaces of a godless universe…” (excerpt from “Temple of the Cosmos: The Ancient Egyptian Experience of the Sacred” )

In essence, we’re talking about what might be called the “spiritual architecture of the universe” here. A universe with multiple dimensions, i.e. spiritual dimensions, beyond that which we are able to experience and comprehend on a day-to-day level. So how to describe things which exist beyond three-dimensional space/time to a 3-D being? Well, you have use three-dimensional terms, concepts and descriptions, because that’s all we can really comprehend. Just as a two-dimensional “Flatlander” could only try to conceptualize 3-D space/time within their own 2-D perspective, so it is for us.

The moment we take this concept with us and keep it in mind when we examine various examples of “Flat-Earth Bible” interpretation, things really start to open up on a whole new level. The “metaphysical architecture” of the universe operates on a scale which both “higher” dimensions of existence, yet also intersects with and involves our own physical dimension at the same time, and so is not a description of some entirely separate or detached reality, but one that seeks to describe the Creation on a level which pushes the limits of our finite comprehension. I read through the entirety of this exposition through the lens of “metaphysical interpretation”, and was just amazed. The author talks about the various historical references made to defend a literal flat Earth, such as:

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “…who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast…”

And other scriptures which refer specifically to the concept of the “vault of Heaven”:

Job 9:8, “…who by himself spread out the heavens [shamayim]…”

Psalm 19:1, “The heavens [shamayim] tell out the glory of God, the vault of heaven [raqiya] reveals his handiwork.”

Psalm 102:25, “…the heavens [shamayim] were thy handiwork.”

Isaiah 45:12, “I, with my own hands, stretched out the heavens [shamayim] and caused all their host to shine…”

Isaiah 48:13, “…with my right hand I formed the expanse of the sky [shamayim]…”

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What really interested me though was the thorough exploration of the many intersecting tangents between the Biblical examples of these cosmological themes, and the ones found in the Book of Enoch:

The Ends of the Earth

The angel Uriel guided Enoch in most of his travels. They made several trips to the ends of the earth, where the dome of heaven came down to the surface. For instance, Enoch says:

I went to the extreme ends of the earth and saw there huge beasts, each different from the other and different birds (also) differing from one another in appearance, beauty, and voice. And to the east of those beasts, I saw the ultimate ends of the earth which rests on the heaven. And the gates of heaven were open, and I saw how the stars of heaven come out…(1 Enoch 33:1-2).

(The sharp-eyed reader will note what I suspect is an editing error in the Isaac translation. The earth resting on the heaven makes no sense. R. H. Charles has “whereon the heaven rests.”)

Again, Enoch says, “I went in the direction of the north, to the extreme ends of the earth, and there at the extreme end of the whole world I saw a great and glorious seat. There (also) I saw three open gates of heaven; when it blows cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain, through each one of the (gates) the winds proceed in the northwesterly direction (1 Enoch 34:1-2).” This accords well with Jeremiah 51:16 which says, “he brings up the mist from the ends of the earth, he opens rifts for the rain and brings the wind out of his storehouses.” In subsequent chapters, Enoch journeys “to the extreme ends of the earth” in the west, south, and east. In each place he saw three more “open gates of heaven.”

There were other things to be seen at the ends of the earth. Earlier, we deferred discussion of the King James version of Job 26:7, “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.” On several occasions when Enoch and the angel are out beyond the dome of heaven, Enoch comments that there is nothing above or below. For instance, “And I came to an empty place. And I saw (there) neither a heaven above nor an earth below, but a chaotic and terrible place (1 Enoch 21:1-2).” Could this be the kind of nothingness referred to in Job?

An angel also showed Enoch the storerooms of the winds (18:1) and the cornerstone of the earth (18:2).

The Sun and Moon

And what of the sun and moon? Psalm 19:4-6 (quoted earlier) suggest that the sun holes up at the ends of the earth until it is time to rise. Enoch expands upon this idea. In 1 Enoch 41:5, he “saw the storerooms of the sun and the moon, from what place they go out and to which place they return…” Further, “they keep faith one with another: in accordance with an oath they set and they rise.”

Enoch discusses the solar and lunar motions at length, explaining why the apparent azimuths of their rising and setting varies with the season. The explanation, found in the section called “The Book of the Heavenly Luminaries,” begins thus:

This is the first commandment of the luminaries: The sun is a luminary whose egress is an opening of heaven, which is (located) in the direction of the east, and whose ingress is (another) opening of heaven, (located) in the west. I saw six openings through which the sun rises and six openings through which it sets. The moon also rises and sets through the same openings, and they are guided by the stars; together with those whom they lead, they are six in the east and six in the west heaven. All of them (are arranged) one after another in a constant order. There are many windows (both) to the right and the left of these openings. First there goes out the great light whose name is the sun; its roundness is like the roundness of the sky; and it is totally filled with light and heat. The chariot in which it ascends is (driven by) the blowing wind. The sun sets in the sky (in the west) and returns by the northeast in order to go to the east; it is guided so that it shall reach the eastern gate and shine in the face of the sky (1 Enoch 72:2-5).

The openings in the vault of heaven in the east and west are matched to the seasons. On the longest day of the year, the sun rises and sets through the northernmost pair. On the shortest day, it rises and sets through the southernmost pair. The return routes of the sun and moon are outside the dome. Perhaps they rest in their “storerooms” during their time off.

The Stars

Like the Bible, 1 Enoch typically depicts stars as living, anthropomorphic beings. The Sons of the Gods are also dealt with in 1 Enoch, and they are associated with stars. This is consistent with Job 38:7, which says that when the earth’s cornerstone was laid “the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted aloud.”

As mentioned earlier, Matthew 24:29 and Revelation 6:13 deal with stars that fall to earth. The image comes from Enoch, but Matthew and John omit some details. In 1 Enoch 88:1, a star that fell from the sky is seized, bound hand and foot, and thrown into an abyss. A few verses later, other stars “whose sexual organs were like the organs of horses” are likewise bound hand and foot and cast “into the pits of the earth (1 Enoch 88:3).”

Most stars just go through their motions night after night. Some stars never set, and Enoch was shown their chariots (1 Enoch 75:8). Stars that do rise and set do so through openings in dome, just like the sun and moon. God, according to 1 Enoch, runs a tight universe, and stars that do not rise on time are thrown into the celestial slammer. Showing Enoch a hellish scene, the angel Uriel explains:

This place is the (ultimate) end of heaven and earth: it is the prison house for the stars and the powers of heaven. And the stars which roll over upon the fire, they are the ones which have transgressed the commandments of God from the beginning of their rising because they did not arrive punctually (1 Enoch 18:14-15).

Enoch was not told the sentence for tardy rising, but Uriel later shows him other stars “which have transgressed the commandments of the Lord,” for which they were doing ten million years of hard time (1 Enoch 21:6). Enoch also was shown an even more terrible place, a fiery prison house where fallen angels were detained forever (1 Enoch 21:10).

Even in what here is a larger post than what which I typically write, I know I am barely scratching the surface in exploring the many directions which could be taken while speculating on these matters from the “both/and” type of approach. One of the themes often related to “Flat Earth” theory, by figures such as Mark Sargent (and others) is the concept of an “enclosed system”. While they might apply this idea in a very straight-forward materialistic way (the sky being a literal, physical dome that you would physically crash into if you flew high enough), from my newly-developing perspective of the “flat earth” being more a description of the plane of existence in which we live, it very much can be looked at as being an “enclosed system”, albeit in a much more dynamic sense, particularly from the perspective of both mortal humans, and fallen angelic beings

oculusFrom the perspective of “Satanic agenda”, once again the idea that there is very real, tangible-yet-spiritual veil separating the Earth and the Heavens, creating an imposing barrier which the Fallen Cherub hopes to penetrate and ascend through in order to dethrone God Himself, then once again, this cosmological model seems to fit almost too perfectly. When I think about all instances where Luciferian/Illuminati symbolism in the media involves the imagery of the “oculus in the ceiling”, or, rising through a portal in the “eye” of some Pantheon-like structure, it’s just quite amazing to see how much these concepts really do all fit together…

What are your thoughts on this? Does this sound crazy to you, or is there really perhaps something to all this “flat Earth stuff”? If this really does tie into some kind of true metaphysical cosmology, then maybe this would explain why even a more literal/materialistic interpretation of these ideas are “ringing true” for some people out there..?

But What If It’s Not Just A Figure Of Speech…

I read this story the other day, and it really did just break my heart…

I am almost afraid to even write anything at all on the subject, as it is such a horrendous tragedy, and I cannot imagine the pain being felt by the family, and yet, at the same time, as the article itself admits, this is not an isolated or unique case. These sorts of stories have affected, and are affecting, so many families in this country and around the world, and obviously the entire subject of clinical depression, suicide, and anti-depressant drugs is such a massive and daunting one.

What really struck me though when reading this piece, was how often the author (the mother) referred to what she eventually came to think of as “the demons”.

She writes toward the end:

“My daughter lived more than six years with an incurable disease that filled her head with devils that literally hounded her to death…”

Yet Natalie was clearly a bright and beautiful human being who indeed longed to be free from the internal suffering, who sadly after years of only numbing the voices and pain through meds came to conclude that nothing could truly cure her.

I also found this article as a possible notable anecdote in light of a conversation/debate I participated in not long ago, whereby the atheist author was basically arguing the point that “backwards religious people” were responsible for the injury and death of many individuals because they ignorantly attributed depression and other mental illnesses to demonic oppression, rather than the much more “scientifically enlightened” view of treating it as a chemical imbalance requiring the appropriate medication.

The thing is, if my arm was being devoured by a pack of rabid wolves, you could shoot me full of morphine until I could scarcely feel the sting of their teeth ripping my flesh, but the carnage would still be taking place…

It is indeed incredibly ironic that in the context of a case where seemingly there WAS no “religious ignorance” involved, and the doctors and specialists and all the resources of the medical establishment were being trusted with complete confidence, the “illness” somehow was still of such a nature that it prompted this kind of personification, this allusion to the ‘antiquated’ notion of devils and demons hounding someone mercilessly. Why would ‘chemical imbalances’ have such a pointed and twisted agenda..? Why would molecules in the brain seem to have the ability to speak, and prey upon our fears and pain..?

Why use such a figure of speech if there couldn’t possibly be any truth to such an outdated idea from the Dark Ages…

Portal of Heaven and the Last Days “Endgame”…?

Okay, so fair warning, this post might be a bit of a doozy for a number of readers to digest, but basically in this I am simply going to attempt to lay out a concept/question that I have been “chewing on” for some time now.

ladder2I have already written a few posts about the topic of portals and the possible connection to things like CERN, and as these kinds of ponderings have continued to seemingly flesh themselves out more and more as time has passed, it has brought me to wonder about how it might all connect to what the Bible describes as taking place in the Last Days, particularly in connection to the anti-Christ and the mysterious “abomination that causes desolation”.

When we start looking into the matter of inter-dimensional “portals”, or gateways between the physical spiritual realms, and how there is a lot of evidence to suggest that certain locations on Earth might be understood to be places where the veil is “thinner”, or even “poked through” to some degree, such as speculations about Mt. Graham (as discussed by researchers Cris Putnam and Tom Horn), or many, many other parts of the world, the one that has continually piqued my curiosity is the question of there being some kind of connection to the famous story of “Jacob’s Ladder” in the Bible.

In Genesis 28:10-17 it says, “Jacob left Beersheba and set out for Harran. When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. There above it stood the Lord, and he said: “I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying. Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring. I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go, and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, “Surely the Lord is in this place, and I was not aware of it.” He was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven.”

symbolism_symbolic_jacobs_ladder_william_blake_postcard-rd971d8205eb34ab2a0ab0ac9fc92ee20_vgbaq_8byvr_324Many people have already pointed to this passage as an example of a “portal”, a spiritual gateway, and I think rightly so. From the Biblical description it would seem that it is not just any portal either, but one which actually leads “up” to the very throne of God Himself.

Now… Bear with me for a moment while I jump to another tidbit of information which I came across a little while ago, which very much seemed to correlate to this whole discussion. I was listening to the Conspirinormal podcast a couple months ago, where they interviewed the author Tracy Twyman. Twyman started out as a researcher of secret societies and esoteric “stuff”, who eventually concluded that the common thread of all secret societies was that they were in contact with spiritual entities (a conclusion I would affirm). However, (and sadly, I would opine), she wound up using ouji boards to start contacting entities herself, and contact them she did. Two of the main entities she has interacted with are named “Cain” and “Baphomet” (and from my perspective, you shouldn’t need much more evidence than that alone to see these entities are in fact demonic…) and have relayed a host of information about the “forgotten history” of the world and many other things. The Bible calls this “didache demonoia”. Doctrines of demons. (so for anyone who might be wondering, please know I am not regarding such information as anything but that).

Yet, I must say that I found it quite fascinating to hear what she began to describe at around the 112 minute mark, where she speaks of what Cain, (and even an entity calling itself “Satan”) has to say about the “End of Days”. Essentially, (and I’m paraphrasing here) what they taught her was that the universe (in all of it’s dimensions/realms) is held together by a sort of central “pole”, an “axis”, which functions like a central pillar, keeping the realms separate and more or less holding the “structure” of the cosmos in place. She tells how from what she can gather, the basic goal of these “entities” (i.e. demons, fallen angels…) who are currently imprisoned in the “lower realm”, is to somehow collapse this pillar, and remove the separation between all the realms and actually storm heaven itself, take over the New Jerusalem, and put themselves on the throne.

Now, the reason I found this so telling was that after researching various occult concepts/teachings for several years now, I have to say it actually fits right in with so much of what I have encountered elsewhere, not to mention it actually fits quite nicely with what I find being described in much of Biblical prophecy as well…

Okay, so let’s throw in a third trajectory. The other vein of research which also seems to tie in with all of this is simply the broader question of the New World Order “endgame”. The Bible itself declares that the anti-Christ will crown himself as a “god” before the whole Earth, and set up an “image of the Beast” commanding the whole world to worship it, in the Holy of Holies… This is of course why so many Christians looking into Bible Prophecy are very fixed on the issue of watching to see if/when the Third Temple is finally rebuilt in Jerusalem. Traditionally, Bible prophecy has regarded this event from the perspective of it’s blasphemous characteristics, the idea of doing something profane in the “Holy of Holies” in the temple. More recent speculations have looked into possible connections between the “image of the Beast” and some kind of A.I. entity/creation. (see Gonz’s fantastic documentary Age of Deceit 2: Alchemy and the Rise of the Beast Image)

That being said, the more I have looked into the pieces/trails of all the “tentacles” of the NWO octopus, the more we so much of it pointing back to Luciferian elements operating behind the superficial motivations of political Zionism, and indeed this makes sense, if as the Bible says, the AC ultimately will set up a “throne” in Jerusalem itself and reign from there as the capitol of his unholy global empire. But is that it? Is that as far as Satan wants to go? Simply reigning over humanity and the rest of the Earth, or does he want more…?

Isaiah 14 says of Lucifer, the fallen star…

“How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart,
I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High
.”
But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit.”

So what I am basically wondering about at this stage is this: What if this final “phase” of the Enemy’s agenda involves more than just setting up a physical global empire, more than the idolatrous worship of Lucifer in place of God in a rebuilt earthly temple, and even more than the opening up of a portal(s) between the “underworld” or “bottomless pit”, the “prison cube”, and the realm in which humanity lives. Wouldn’t there also be the attempt to not only stop here, but charge their way into the highest of the heavens, to the very Throne of God, and finish carrying out the “angelic coup” they originally started way back in the early dawn of earth’s history?

Could the abomination of desolation, as described in the Book of Daniel, perhaps be some kind of advanced form of the kind of thing being developed at CERN right now, (part ritual, part technology…), the opening of a spiritual portal which rocks the foundations of the Creation itself, (causing “desolation”…?) which Satan himself, through the figure of his “savior” the AC, opens up in order to try and invade the real Holy of Holies…?

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This concept of a “world tree”, or “axis mundi”, is one that is absolutely ubiquitous throughout shamanic and esoteric traditions. It is found in ancient religious systems from Asia to the Middle East to early tribal Europe to the Americas. It is a very central theme of Wicca, the New Age movement, and Kabbalah. In short, in every “school” of spiritual learning where people are being taught by the demonic, this concept of a central “tree” or “pillar” or “axis” shows up again and again. It would seem that the fallen entities are in fact quite obsessed with it.

And so, if there was indeed at least some fraction of truth behind this concept (as usually there is within all occult teaching, albeit in a twisted and misrepresented form) then it would actually make a lot of sense as to why Lucifer and his underlings would be so fixated on getting access to it, forcing it open, as if it were akin to the “central elevator shaft” of the entire cosmos. And, if the vision beheld by Jacob really was a glimpse of that “central connector” between the realms, going all the way to the highest Heaven, then maybe, just maybe, this would explain a lot more as to why Satan would be so interested in that tiny sliver of land in the Middle East known as “Israel” for being the seat of his New World Order rule…

Out of the Pit…

All this attention to CERN lately, and speculations over whether or not it might possibly lead to the opening of some sort of “inter-dimensional portal” or allow us to “peek into a parallel universe” or something along these lines, has really had me thinking lately about the topic of the “abyss”, or “bottomless pit” in the Bible.

There is something almost universally embedded in our collective psyche, something so ingrained in our consciousness, in connection to an almost instinctive fear of a deep, dark, pit.

Somehow, it seems to go beyond just the practical fears of falling a long ways and being injured, or being afraid of the dark, etc. It’s a haunting feeling, when even as a small child, you peer over the edge of something like an old abandoned well for the first time, or even walking over an especially large storm drain, with nothing but thebottomless-pit21 iron grate separating you from the depths of a damp, foreboding chasm…

The “abyss” in the Bible was something which, growing up reading Bible stories, I was vaguely familiar with since I had read many times the part of Revelation which talks about these frightening beings which come up out of the “Abyss” during the Last Days:

The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes. During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer). (Revelation 9:1-11)

I was also familiar with the verses in Luke which describe Jesus’ encounter with a demon-possessed man:

When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don’t torture me!” For Jesus had commanded the impure spirit to come out of the man. Many times it had seized him, and though he was chained hand and foot and kept under guard, he had broken his chains and had been driven by the demon into solitary places.

Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”

“Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him. And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss. (Luke 8:28-31)

Yes despite having been familiar with these references to this “abyss”, I never realized that it was something that I really couldn’t offer any possible explanations as to just what this “abyss” was exactly, or where it came from… It’s another one of those elements, similar to Genesis 6 and the “Nephilim”, which many people in churches simply scratch their heads, shrug their shoulders, and move on. And that’s fine. Not trying to pick on anyone here.

But for me, when I was finally presented with the explanation of the Nephilim involving the “Watchers” of the Book of Enoch, whereby the giants were the offspring of inter-relations between fallen angels and human women, the “abyss” became another one of these previously unexpanded side-details which suddenly had a very compelling explanation! Suddenly it all made SO much more sense. It explained what this place was, and why the demons in Luke 8 are so utterly terrified of being sent there.

In the Book of Enoch, which describes the pre-flood sins of the “Watcher” angels in quite a bit of detail, Enoch is actually shown the prison where the angels who sinned against God and man were sentenced to be cast into as punishment, and Enoch finds it to be a most terrifying thing to behold:

And I saw a deep abyss, with columns of heavenly fire, and among them I saw columns of fire fall, which were beyond measure alike towards the height and towards the depth. And beyond that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of the heaven above, and no firmly founded earth beneath it: there was no water upon it, and no birds, but it was a waste and horrible place. I saw there seven stars like great burning mountains, and to me, when I inquired regarding them, The angel said: ‘This place is the end of heaven and earth: this has become a prison for the stars and the host of heaven. And the stars which roll over the fire are they which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord in the beginning of their rising, because they did not come forth at their appointed times’. And He was wroth with them, and bound them till the time when their guilt should be consummated (even) for ten thousand years.’ (Enoch, chapter 18, v11-16)

But before anyone starts protesting that this is not a part of the canon of scripture, I must point out the following verses which are all found in the New Testament, and ask you to consider how they actually would make any sense at all, outside of the very explanation provided by that of the Book of Enoch…

“For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water…” (1 Peter 3:18-20)

“If God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly…” (2 Peter 2:4,5)

And finally in Jude:

“Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.” (Jude 1:5,6)

Jude is particularly noteworthy, because a little further on in verses 14/15 is where Jude actually quotes directly from the Book of Enoch, and not only that, but references his own quotation as an actual “prophecy”. Jude refers to the words in the Book of Enoch as prophetic. (This fact actually played a major role in my decision to reconsider my previous assumptions on this whole “Genesis 6” issue.)

Another great resource I have found on this subject is “A Survey on the Abyss in the Old and New Testaments” by “Paradox Brown”. Very well researched and annotated. Definitely worth checking out.

bonaccitOverall the significance of the Nephilim-Watcher-Abyss connection is that is really does a lot to reveal how the prophecies concerning the Last Days in Revelation and elsewhere are really very much about the whole expanse of Biblical/world history coming almost completely full circle, where the bizarre and almost unbelievable events which marked the “Days of Noah” are foretold to one day again visit the Earth as it experiences very remarkable events indeed. If we understand all that the Bible has to say about how all these things came about, and the reasons behind, say, who this “Apollyon” character is and why he/it would be so eager to get OUT and wreak havoc upon the Earth, then we are far less prone to be deceived by whatever manner through which this prophecy eventually is fulfilled. It is the deceiving nature of these lying spirits, these “fallen, imprisoned gods”, that is to be treated with the most caution. It’s not about being afraid of some army of “Monsters from the ID”.

After all, when the angel comes out of the Abyss in Revelation 9, the ones whom he and his strange horde attack and torture are those who have rejected God and do not have the “seal of God on their foreheads”…